I was headed towards the C-suite and people would call me and say thing like, “I wish I had your confidence” and the way that it looked on the outside didn’t match at all how it felt on the inside. I was getting promoted pretty regularly at a Fortune 100 finance company. Nicole Kalil: Yeah, so I probably bought into that lie at a very young age unconsciously and it wasn’t until my late 20s, just about when I turned 30, that I recognized that I didn’t really know what confidence was, but I was certain I didn’t have any of it, which would have been really shocking if you would have known me at that stage in my life. Gunnar Rogers: Yes and I almost never ask about titles on this show but yours is just so dang good and it does point to the problem that you expound upon in the book and so diving into that a little bit more, when did you first realized women are being sold the lie that confidence is something to earn, instead of something to build from within and something that they inherently can be? Building Confidence So, you know, the subtitle is “ How Women Can Beat the Confidence Con.” The confidence con was what we were really playing with, for the most part, up until that point. She was like, “I love that” and I’m like, “Really? Okay”. I’m feeling kind of punch and no filter at that point in time. Spent about four hours going through, I don’t know, 672 iterations of different titles and it was at the end of that fourth hour. It’s been on my bucket list since I was very young, and so I thought there was going to be this order of events and I figured, the title would be at the very beginning and to make a very long process short, the book was being written and pretty heavy into chapters being filled before that title came, and I had a partner in the process. So I thought going into the book writing process and I’ve been wanting to write a book for as long as I can remember. What is the origin of Validation is for Parking?

When and how did you come up with the title for your book because it’s just so wonderful. Really simple question first, I’ve just got to know. You’ve done some incredible things throughout your career but the message you’re putting out into the world today is so helpful and so crucial and so, I’m just really thankful for that and thankful to have you on the show today. Gunnar Rogers: We’re excited to have you and I was telling you before we hit record, I’ve been reading the book a little bit, listened to a little bit of your podcast. Nicole Kalil: Thank you so much for having me, Gunnar, I’m excited to be here.

Nicole Kalil, thank you so much for joining us today. She is the host of the This Is Women’s Work Podcast, she is also the newly minted author of the book, Validation is for Parking: How Women Can Beat the Confidence Con.

I highly recommend everybody to go check this book out, it’s discounted to 99 cents, the Kindle version is, for this week and this week alone.īut before you do that, enjoy this conversation with Nicole Kalil.Īll right everybody, as I mentioned in the intro, I am super honored and excited to have this next guest on The Author Hour Podcast. She’s also the newly minted author of the book, Validation is for Parking: How Women Can Beat the Confidence Con. I am joined today by fellow podcast host of the podcast, This Is Women’s Work, Nicole Kalil. Hey everybody, welcome to the Author Hour Podcast.

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